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  The name Jehovah

  by sweetums in

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  i was wondering how many of you think that the name jehovah is actually correct?

  to be honest with you, everytime i hear it i cringe.

  i had that name shoved down my throat for the past 30 years by my witness mother-in-law.

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  JWs say they use Jehovah as it is the most common in english, but they seem to be less then honest .

  I had a THE TRUTH book in greek and they use IXOBA which is very different from what greeks had in their language from early times, namely IOBE
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  Anyone know of people claiming to be Satan?

  by eclipse in

  1. jw
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  there are people who have claimed or who to claim to be jesus.. i am ignorant of any news about people claiming to be satan.. i'll do my own research but if anyone knows any incidences off the top of their head?

  please share.... the threads on satan made me wonder about the phenomenon of people taking on this superior identity..

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  besides Ozzy Osborne and my ex wife, I cant think of any.
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  ETERNITY BEFORE CREATION.....THE NON-EXISTENCE.....of GOD!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  before god began creating.......he wasn't a creator.. before god began creating.....there was nothing......and therefore nothing to know.. before god began creating...there was nothing and nothing to know....and therefore nothing to love.. before god began creating...he was alone with nothing to distinguish him from nothingness except--what?

  his mind?

  filled with what, actually?.

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  the question was, apparently about what GOD did prior to creation...when did reality wake up... become conscious?

  that is the first moment that time could have any meaning, no?

  I am reality dreaming about myself... what was I before that? still reality...but I cannot tell you what I was doing because I have no conscious recollection of it.

  that does not make me less GOD-- The Generator Of Dreams. (^_^)
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  ETERNITY BEFORE CREATION.....THE NON-EXISTENCE.....of GOD!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  before god began creating.......he wasn't a creator.. before god began creating.....there was nothing......and therefore nothing to know.. before god began creating...there was nothing and nothing to know....and therefore nothing to love.. before god began creating...he was alone with nothing to distinguish him from nothingness except--what?

  his mind?

  filled with what, actually?.

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  the dreamer dreaming

  in the beginning was the dreamer

  and the dreamer was with the Generator Of Dreams

  and the Generator Of Dreams was the dreamer

  this one was in the beginning with the Generator Of Dreams

  and all things came into being by this one and without this one

  nothing existed.

  --if you dont find it remarkable that reality is capable of dreaming-- being conscious

  then you are not thinking.
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  do they believe, yes

  by the dreamer dreaming in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to get picked to be a company man you have to find favor in those in charge.

  they pick their mirror reflections... clones.

  they want convinced believers just like themselves.

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  to get picked to be a company man you have to find favor in those in charge

  they pick their mirror reflections... clones

  they want CONviNcED beLIEveRS just like themselves. to get that far in Borganization you have to be pretty CONviNcED.

  I found that my doubts, while I was entranced, were only visible, one at a time... and when compared to all that I accepted, they seemed trivial...something Jehovah would help me work out... a doubt I would keep to myself.

  only after the borg theological implants failed did I see all my doubts together... a mountain of them which caused me to gasp... entrancements have that power to cause a tunnel vision and distort perceptions.
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  who have you murdered? my life is over again

  by coaster in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is it wrong to even think about it?

  how can a religion take over and have so much control.

  i know truth, but only when is walks up and sticks a finger deep into my eye socket.

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  everyone has a Belief System... the trick is to learn not to take ANY BS too seriously.

  some questions have NO answer, but all answers can be questioned.

  for each answer you find, a dozen new questions will arise...

  the more you learn the less you know.

  religion is about pretending to know what you only believe.

  religioUS beLIEveRS have done you nothing of worth, dont seek the snake oil they sell.
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  Adam & Eve question...

  by tan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my young daughter asked this question regarding adam & eve:.

  if they were perfect, why did they need to eat from the tree of good and bad anyway?.

  we eat to nourish our bodies, we eat to replenish, we eat for energy....they were perfect and would not need those things.. from the mouth of babes.... what's your thoughts....

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  Adam and Eve were immortal as long as they had access to the tree of life...

  Demonstrably untrue.

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  you obviously did not read a word I wrote....or you cannot read proper english.

  how could you conclude the exact opposite of what I said if you read it?
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  Atheists, Agnostics: Do you still pray?

  by Eh in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for people who left, not only the organization, but also the canaanite/judaic/christian/islamic/bahai god, do you still pray?

  before we left the group we (my wife and i) were questioning the bible and the existence of god.

  being witnesses, we were uneducated and never heard of things like pascal's wager, but we (my wife especially) had come to a similar idea - even if the whole thing were ballocks, there was little harm in continuing.

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  this reminds me

  one of the first things that happened to me post JW was things I really needed just sometimes happened, no prayer, no thought about asking anyone for it... I needed it and before I did anything about it --poof! it happened... and not just once.

  car needs repairs- pre-approved credit card arrives in the mail.

  it occurred to me that atheists and all other people on earth get their wishes granted at times whether they pray or not... those who pray just thank whom ever they prayed to while the atheists just call it luck, etc.

  I have never run across any religion that did not believe in the power of prayer, which means that enough wishes are granted to everyone to keep it possible while most prayers fall into the god said NO or WAIT catagories.
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  Did You REALLY Believe?

  by Eh in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't believe jw teachings anymore.

  i don't believe the bible is anything more than a religious text written by men.

  i have no reason to believe there's anything beyond the natural world.

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  I wanted to believe and I prayed a lot, but I always had doubts... I wanted something, anything to show me that it was more than a belief System or BS... I remember at times, I would be preaching and feel like I was describing a cartoon not a real life situation. I felt that I was not worthy at times, but perhaps I could save another... I felt doubts over different things about employment love and other things that the WT told me God would take care of... It was not until I was out that I could see how many doubts there were. while a believer I had a sort of hypnotically induced tunnel vision that only let me see one doubt at a time and never see them all together...the mountain they were.

  When the trance was broken, I realized that I had never had any reason to believe that God was real other than being told he was and the more I examined this the more I could see it was a lot more like santa claus than anything I could identify as remotely real.

  even before JWs I pondered how God could know that he was the ONLY God... if we could not sense him in any way, why couldn't there be a greater being that God could not sense?
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  Atheists, Agnostics: Do you still pray?

  by Eh in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for people who left, not only the organization, but also the canaanite/judaic/christian/islamic/bahai god, do you still pray?

  before we left the group we (my wife and i) were questioning the bible and the existence of god.

  being witnesses, we were uneducated and never heard of things like pascal's wager, but we (my wife especially) had come to a similar idea - even if the whole thing were ballocks, there was little harm in continuing.

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  I am part of the whole and I am the whole, so prayer is the son speaking to the father or mother of us all...GOD-- The Generator Of Dreams.

  I am talking to myself, and sometimes I listen (^_^)